Comments on: Yahoo Music To (NOT) Be Shut Down http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/ More Signal. Less Noise. Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:29:57 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Andrew Schmitt http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-708 Andrew Schmitt Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:58:06 +0000 http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-708 If you work things through email, they eventually will give you a number to call. The number they gave me was 866-562-7228 If you work things through email, they eventually will give you a number to call.

The number they gave me was 866-562-7228

]]> By: Mike Javadi http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-707 Mike Javadi Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:44:29 +0000 http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-707 I am actually impressed that you got a hold of live person. Yahoo's support sucks and I can't figure out how to get a hold of customer care. I am thinking of calling the CC company and just denying the charges/cancelling the card. I am actually impressed that you got a hold of live person. Yahoo’s support sucks and I can’t figure out how to get a hold of customer care. I am thinking of calling the CC company and just denying the charges/cancelling the card.

]]> By: GigaOM » Price Hikes For Yahoo Music http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-706 GigaOM » Price Hikes For Yahoo Music Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:00:26 +0000 http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-706 [...] Earlier this week, someone asked me what’s up with Yahoo Music, and their Music Match service. Since, Yahoo is not my preferred source of digital music, I admit, I completely forgot about them, and the fact that they had paid $160 million for Music Match back in September 2004. The last update we had was from August 2006 when some rebranding happened, but that doesn’t really tell us how the service is doing. (MusicMatch’s Alexa graph is horrifying, but that’s neither here or there.) We updated the post and have a slide after the turn which paints a pretty good picture actually.) As luck would have it, Andrew Schmitt wrote a blog post based on a chat with some tech support person that indicated that Yahoo Music was going to be shut down. That was not the case, once we checked with Yahoo, though it was late in the day on Friday. Nevertheless, all that poking around led me to this blog post that reveals that Yahoo Music is about to raise its prices… again. [...] [...] Earlier this week, someone asked me what’s up with Yahoo Music, and their Music Match service. Since, Yahoo is not my preferred source of digital music, I admit, I completely forgot about them, and the fact that they had paid $160 million for Music Match back in September 2004. The last update we had was from August 2006 when some rebranding happened, but that doesn’t really tell us how the service is doing. (MusicMatch’s Alexa graph is horrifying, but that’s neither here or there.) We updated the post and have a slide after the turn which paints a pretty good picture actually.) As luck would have it, Andrew Schmitt wrote a blog post based on a chat with some tech support person that indicated that Yahoo Music was going to be shut down. That was not the case, once we checked with Yahoo, though it was late in the day on Friday. Nevertheless, all that poking around led me to this blog post that reveals that Yahoo Music is about to raise its prices… again. [...]

]]> By: Naik’s News » Price Hikes For Yahoo Music http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-705 Naik’s News » Price Hikes For Yahoo Music Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:33:54 +0000 http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-705 [...] As luck would have it, Andrew Schmitt wrote a blog post based on a chat with some tech support person that indicated that Yahoo Music was going to be shut down. That was not the case, once we checked with Yahoo, though it was late in the day on Friday. Nevertheless, all that poking around led me to this blog post that reveals that Yahoo Music is about to raise its prices… again. [...] [...] As luck would have it, Andrew Schmitt wrote a blog post based on a chat with some tech support person that indicated that Yahoo Music was going to be shut down. That was not the case, once we checked with Yahoo, though it was late in the day on Friday. Nevertheless, all that poking around led me to this blog post that reveals that Yahoo Music is about to raise its prices… again. [...]

]]> By: What About AllofMP3? http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-704 What About AllofMP3? Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:42:33 +0000 http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-704 Try AllofMP3, a Russian site, the second biggest music site to iTunes in the UK with no advertising and solid pure sales (not millions of people seeking promotional stuff). Now here's the problem, they pay royalty agencies, the royalty agency doesn't pay the musicians (so claims the RIAA), so it's legal in Russia, but only due to a loophole which will be closed. Now here's the thing, RIAA says alofMp3 is successful because it shovels music dirt cheap. Yet this is not true and hasn't been for a while: Albums are $2-$5 in regular quality, $4-$9 in the more raw incompressed format. These prices are not that dissimilar to the prices the retailers pay for an album. You are after all buying an album without media, artwork and packaging. I myself tried it and will buy again if they can resolve their legal situation. The reason it's successful is because they don't piss around with the format, you buy the format you want how you want it. I only wish for faster format conversions and a download manager, but they seem to be working on one. So to my point: imagine if the current push by the RIAA to regularize the Russian market backfires, imagine if they get their royalties paid from the collecting agencies, but the mandatory license remains. Allofmp3 would then be legal and a legal allofmp3 would totally kick iTunes and Yahoo music's ass, because it would be content without that DRM stuff. So I think it's at a knife edge and could go either way, if Yahoo gets it's unprotected music it could take iTunes, if AllofMp3 get legal, it could take iTunes. Either way I have difficulty thinking that two years from now, iTunes selling locked music to fixed devices will be the winner. Zune is a non starter in my view. Try AllofMP3, a Russian site, the second biggest music site to iTunes in the UK with no advertising and solid pure sales (not millions of people seeking promotional stuff).

Now here’s the problem, they pay royalty agencies, the royalty agency doesn’t pay the musicians (so claims the RIAA), so it’s legal in Russia, but only due to a loophole which will be closed.

Now here’s the thing, RIAA says alofMp3 is successful because it shovels music dirt cheap. Yet this is not true and hasn’t been for a while:
Albums are $2-$5 in regular quality, $4-$9 in the more raw incompressed format. These prices are not that dissimilar to the prices the retailers pay for an album. You are after all buying an album without media, artwork and packaging.

I myself tried it and will buy again if they can resolve their legal situation.

The reason it’s successful is because they don’t piss around with the format, you buy the format you want how you want it. I only wish for faster format conversions and a download manager, but they seem to be working on one.

So to my point: imagine if the current push by the RIAA to regularize the Russian market backfires, imagine if they get their royalties paid from the collecting agencies, but the mandatory license remains. Allofmp3 would then be legal and a legal allofmp3 would totally kick iTunes and Yahoo music’s ass, because it would be content without that DRM stuff.

So I think it’s at a knife edge and could go either way, if Yahoo gets it’s unprotected music it could take iTunes, if AllofMp3 get legal, it could take iTunes. Either way I have difficulty thinking that two years from now, iTunes selling locked music to fixed devices will be the winner. Zune is a non starter in my view.

]]> By: Doug Clark http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-703 Doug Clark Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:32:11 +0000 http://www.nyquistcapital.com/2006/10/13/yahoo-music-to-be-shut-down/#comment-703 Hi Andrew, My name is Doug Clark and I am the product director at Yahoo! overseeing the Yahoo Music Jukebox and Unlimited subscription service. I just received notification of your post and want to clearly and emphatically ensure you that Yahoo! has absolutely no plans to shut down our subscription service. We are the #1 music destination on the web, reaching more than 24 million unique visitors each month in the US. Our subscription service is and will continue to be a vital part of our comprehensive suite of services. We apologize for any miscommunication or misinformation to the contrary. If you have any further questions about this, please feel free to contact me at dclark@yahoo-inc.com. Thanks. - Doug Hi Andrew,
My name is Doug Clark and I am the product director at Yahoo! overseeing the Yahoo Music Jukebox and Unlimited subscription service. I just received notification of your post and want to clearly and emphatically ensure you that Yahoo! has absolutely no plans to shut down our subscription service. We are the #1 music destination on the web, reaching more than 24 million unique visitors each month in the US. Our subscription service is and will continue to be a vital part of our comprehensive suite of services. We apologize for any miscommunication or misinformation to the contrary.

If you have any further questions about this, please feel free to contact me at dclark@yahoo-inc.com.

Thanks.
- Doug

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